Norwich TPAS branch spring outing.

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Firstly, please accept my apologies for the dearth of posts on here of late.  Excuses #1, #1b and #14 apply.  We haven’t even tweeted much of late either.  Goodness me, what sort of appreciation society is this?

Luckily for us, our hyper-active Norwich Branch of The Society have been on their annual peregrination.  Their Honorary Secretary, Doreen Bracegirdle (Mrs) has just filed her report and photographs.  I’m sure you can work out which image is which from the report.  The question is begged however, of what Mrs Bracegirdle was doing with her camera in the gentleman’s water closet.

Members of the Norwich branch of the Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society recently returned from their annual Spring charabanc outing. This year the destination was the western highlands of Scotland. Much haggis was enjoyed, a little whisky taken. 

Members were saddened to see that many poles which once had us leaping excitedly from our transport and snapping away with our cameras have since vanished. But there still remained previously unrecorded treasures to be discovered. 

Imagine our delight when, passing beneath the Shin Railway Viaduct near Bonar Bridge, one of our members spotted its two original metal telegraph poles extant. Metal poles were once a common sight on the rooftops of our great cities. Few of any sort must survive!

And what whoops of joy we let out when we encountered, on the Assynt peninsula to the north of Ullapool, a run of nearly three miles of (mainly) traditional poles along the B869 ….

running eastwards from the village of Clashnessie (pop: 38; telephone kiosks: 1). This switchback of a road is not one to be tackled by anyone who is faint-hearted or, as was sadly the case with our driver, drunk. 

The Clashnessie poles happily survived the storms of this last winter, which is more than can be said for the phone box at Shegra, further up towards Cape Wrath. The locals told our members that, two months after the gust which took out this box, BT have only just reconnected all the phones in the village. Except this one of course, which has now been adapted for temporary storage by a neighbouring crofter.  

After all our excitement, it was back to Norfolk and a quick pint at our local railway preservation centre, which does a good line in real ale. So disappointing, then, that someone had seen fit to deface a sign in the gentlemen’s “convenience”.  Some people’s idea of humour.

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New Year’s Honours

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The Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society’s new year’s honours list is strongly recognised by the British establishment*1. These awards are for persons deemed to have striven towards excellence in the appreciation and preservation of telegraph poles during the preceding twelve months.

The most prestigious of the awards has to be Dame Commander given to Nottinghamshire based patron of telegraph pole scrapyards, Claire Pendrous.  The full list is below.  A few honorary memberships are also handed out. There are no medals as such*2 for honorary awards, but members are herewith entitled to write the word “honorary” in felt-pen onto their certificate. 

The Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society – New Year’s Honours 2015

Dame Commander of the Order of the Telegraph Pole :  Claire Pendrous
Telegraph Pole Medal

Commander of the Northern Poles, with Oak Leaves : Kev Currie
  This as a decoration addition to his self-titled “Lord of the Northern Poles”
Kev can now call himself Lord or Commander or Lord-Commander (of the Northern Poles) whichever he prefers.
Commander of the Northern Poles Medal

Commander of the Telegraph Pole Preservation Order :Keith S****
Keith is already Honorary Technical Adviser (H.T.A.T.P.A.S.)
Commander of the Telegraph Pole Preservation Order Medal

Honorary Memberships:
David Kendrick (#0609)
John Brunsden (#0469)
Adrian Trainsett Esq. (#0484)
 

 

Well, that was exciting wasn’t it?  Meanwhile my previous post about the cut-down Cobra 1957 has elicited an excited response from our H.T.A.T.P.A.S. Commander Keith S****.  He writes:
A badge off a telegraph pole which says Cobra 1957

David Kendrick’s Cobra treated pole is quite a find. In my 13 years of being a Post Office poles inspector I never came across one. Cobra treatment was a method of prolonging a pole’s life by injecting preservative under pressure by means of a syringe, at the vulnerable ground level point (where moisture and oxygen encourage the growth of rot). This 1957 pole was 10 years before my pole inspecting life and I wonder was it a telephone pole or electric cable carrier, was it near a railway line? It would be interesting to know more.
Keith S****. H.T.A.

Well, over to you David Kendrick (#0609H).

Finally, Commander/Lord of the Northern Poles, Kev Currie wrote in to say “long may yer lums reek!”  Aye, Kev, my lums do fairly reek, but missus TPAS is trying out some new washing powder so we hope to have that sorted soon 😉

*1 We checked and nobody actually says that it isn’t.
*2 Nor for anyone else really unless you print and cut them out off here.

Readers writes

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You might be amazed*1 at just how much correspondence this society receives.  Actual letters and emails asking about telegraph poles, I mean, not the endless automated drivel offering potions to enhance my, ahem, standing in the community etc. 

One question I get asked all the time is just how do you age a telegraph pole.  These correspondees have checked our FAQ page and still need to know just when a pole was planted.  Possibly they have some boundary dispute with their tiresome neighbour – you know, the one with the endless barking dog who throws their rubbish over your hedge and who slams their car door at all hours of the night.  Or perhaps they just like to know the age of things, like the universe, Helen Mirren or that pack of sausages in the fridge.  Truth is, other than the “Doby” mark which says the year it was creosoted, I don’t know of any way to tell when it was planted.  Presumably a list in the local BT office.  I hope now to be advised of a sure-fire way by our many telegraph pole employed readers.

Question two, I suspect, stems from the treasure hunting fraternity…

‘For DP 3081 you must search, the answer then lies in marbled church’ 

…that sort of thing.  Basically, given a DP number for a pole.  How do we locate it other than randomly wandering the countryside? I hope now to be advised of a sure-fire way by our many telegraph pole employed readers.

Anyway, here’s some pretty pictures to illustrate all of the above.  These were sent in by Andrew Chapman who whilst trying to age a telegraph pole, told me about an elderly pole at a crossing of wires onto Ash Island in the Thames, west London.  I imagine if I were to trade my house in I could probably afford the carport of one of these houses.  Or part of a carport maybe.  Anyway, Andrew told me that the local squirrels use the wire-span as a bridge onto the island.  The rifle sights were my addition – I have an issue with the little bleeders.

Telegraph Pole #DP606 The Thames, nr Hampton Court, London

a bloody squirrel

*1 If you’re the sort who is easily amazed.

Website Upgrade

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v3Mrs TPAS has never seen me sweat quite like I did tonight – when I flicked the switch to delete the old website, install the new version, and the damn thing refused to work.  A quick pot of rhubarb yoghurt and a glass of Big Nev’s from the fridge and I soon got it together again though.  This is version 3 of whatever it is and promises to be a bit more hacker-proof than the old, almost identical website.   Those pesky jihadist hackers !

Not everything is working quite right just yet.  But a bit more of that fruity hop flavour and refreshing dry finish and we’ll soon be ship-shape once more.

Hack Attack

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The Welsh Space AgencyYou may have been wondering*1 what ever has happened to some of our other websites – those found under our “Further Whimsy” link below left. And why have they disappeared?

The sad truth is that they all got hacked, and defaced recently by some middle-eastern Jihad organisation.  Why they felt that World of Pallets, B5105.com or the Welsh Space Agency website such a severe threat requiring annihilation is anyone’s guess.

The truth is that year’s of whimsical work has been undone and will take many painstaking hours to replace.  Alas they were constructed using an unsafe version of web technology that will require serious updating to keep the hackers out in future.

Rest assured though that the sites will come back online as soon as possible.  Just in time for nobody to read them anyway.

 

*1 You might not have been.

 

Blue sky, wherefore art thou

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photo by Adrian Trainsett Esq. photo by Peter Hawkey

 

 

 

 

Gazing out of my window at my severe, shivering, sleety surroundings here at T.P.A.S.’s Svalbard H.Q. I got to trying to remember what a blue sky looks like.  Or the colour green.  Then up pops*1 an email from friend of this very society, Adrian Trainsett Esq. – whose certificate bears the number 0484, adorning the wall of his drawing room as it does. 

Contained within this popped-up email was this first photo, taken by his good-self, of an azure sky background to a new-ish telegraph pole on the railway line near Oakworth on the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway. A gorgeous, busy pole with a full complement of 8 dropwires.  It could however have proven more gorgeous, scrumptious even, had it’s erectors deemed fit to equip it with some ceramic insulators.  Yes, I know they don’t tie them off on insulators any more, but they wouldn’t half look the part and can be had for a handful of beans off eBay.

Mr Trainsett also clearly frequents various photograph repository websites such as Flickr and sent us a link to this next beauty.  Another insulator-less blue sky pole.  This disused pole on a disused railway bridge across the river Ythan. My research of Chinese water courses turned up a blank though.  That’s because the Ythan is in Aberdeenshire not Zhejiang province.  This photo is from the collection of one chairman_pete who describes himself as a flute-playing, photograph-taking engineer from Aberdeen.  His is an eclectic photostream and this photo is now in my unofficial all-time top 5 telegraph poles.

 

 

*1  Yes, Adrian’s email really did pop up out of my computer like a piece of toast and even required the burnt bits to be scraped off before I could read it.

Abergavenny on a winter’s day

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Our African correspondent, Martyn Fielder (#0486), is back home in Wales, presumably for Christmas.  And after many months absent from the aesthetics not just of our native telegraph poles, but our gorgeous landscape he sent us these two photos with the following note attached…

A pole near Abergavenny, WalesA pole near Abergavenny, Wales

 

There’s no place like home and there is always a welcome in the hillsides when you come home again to Wales. Taking a welcome break from the relentless Summer of Senegal I am making the most of the cold and damp in the dark shadow of the Black Mountains.

Before you open the attached files, make yourself a nice TPAS mug of tea, sit yourself down somewhere comfortable and assume a calm, reflective frame of mind in order to appreciate these photos. Purity, simplicity and understated elegance on a hillside near Abergavenny.

Martyn

 

We couldn’t agree more.  Not least the bit about TPAS tea.  Last few days to get a Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society Mug before Dec 25th.  There’ll be another 365 days after that, mind you.

 

FAQ

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We get asked an awful lot of questions here at The Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society. Not least, why do we bother? But many of the questions we receive are also about telegraph poles. Here are the answers to a few of them.

How big are telegraph poles ? No hard and fast answer. But 30ft (9m) would be a good average pole.

They are classed for width as (L) Light, (M) Medium, (H) Heavy or the less commonly used Stout.

How deep are they planted ? A pole should be “planted” approx 6ft (1.8m) into the ground.

The doby mark is a notch 3 metres from the bottom of the pole. A pole then correctly planted would show the 3 metre mark at a height of 1.2 metres above ground level.

Often “Depthing Tubes” are fitted which allow inspectors to check that those rascal erection contractors have buried them deep enough.

How far apart are they planted ? Again, no hard and fast answer – all depends on the number of dropwires.  But for railway modelling purposes think approx 60-65 yards on a straight run and 50-60yds on curved sections.  Watch this answer for updates once someone has told me I’m wrong.
How long does a telegraph pole last ?

And how often are they tested?

Telegraph pole testing cycle plate

There is no reason why a properly treated pole shouldn’t last 100 years. We know of one that was “planted” in 1908 and is still not even classed as decayed.

They are tested first at 12 years from new then on a 10 year rolling cycle of inspection.

The inspection is often scurrilously described as the pole being whacked with a hammer and the inspector listening for the dull thud of rot. However, proper inspection requires a sample boring remote from the ground line.

Since 1964 telegraph poles have been affixed with a testing cycle sign (see left). This one was last tested in August 2006, test cycle G.

What does the green ‘C’ mean?

Shallow climbable poles have a green 'C' placard

This pole was not planted deep enough. It is classed as shallow, climbable.
What about a red ‘D’ then?

Poles that have found to be decayed have a 'D' placard

This pole was found to be defective (likely decayed) at its last inspection. It is marked for replacement, as and when!  A pole can be defective because :

A.  It’s rotten.
B.  It’s not planted deep enough.
C.  It has too many wires hanging off it and insufficient stay wires to counter-balance.
D.  Too close to spiked railings
E.  It has too many Coffee Morning posters stuck to it

And what about H?

Poles that are adjacent to a hazard have a 'H' placard

The H is for hazard. unlike a Z pole where the engineer could position his or her ladders to eliminate the hazard threat, the H pole can only be worked on through use of a hoist.  If you’d like to see what the hazard is in this example click right here.

Possibly no longer in use.

 

Z Poles?

A 'Z' Placard

If there is a ‘Z’ plate on a pole it means there is a hazard next to the pole i.e. a spiked fence, but the engineer can still position his ladders in such a way as to reduce the hazard rendering it safe to climb.

 

Thanks to Disco Dave for the H & Z pics and to Campbell Brodie for further info.

What do all these marks mean?

The markings on a BT pole

This pole belongs to B.T.

The horizontal notch is the “doby” mark, ie 3m from the bottom, 1.2m from ground level

It was preserved (in creosote) in 1999.  It will have been planted some time after that due to the pole lying in the yard until the lazy buggers finished their hand of cards to go out and plant the thing – anything up to 3 years later.

Apparently the 2I indicates which woodyard the pole came from*

 

*Thanks to John Paine for this info – he has mislaid his definitive list of woodyards and codes. It’s probably in the cupboard in the garage.  Or under the stairs.

Then what about these? The markings on a BT pole These are just the sequencing numbers for this pole in a run of poles from the exchange / branch.  I bet there’s one numbered 5 or 7 nearby.
 Who is responsible for telephone poles? B.T. Openreach. NOT the Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society.  We just admire them. So if a pole near you has fallen down, or something has dropped off one onto your car windscreen then it is nothing to do with us.
 What about electricity poles? Your local power company.  Around here (in Wales) it’s Scottish Power.  Presumably they have Welsh power in Scotland.  Anyway, see previous answer pertaining to “nowt to do with us”.
Are the markings (or the crossarms) on a telegraph pole always on the side nearest London?   Yes, absolutely.  Except for all those where they’re not of course.

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Does the Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society have a BIBLE? Absolutely we do.  It’s called  “The Telegraph Pole” by W.H. Brent B.Sc (Hons.) A.M.I.E.E. and you can read it <HERE>
Thanks to :  Disco Dave & Campbell Brodie* for updates to these FAQ pages. And to Pete Gerrard aka Treebore for bringing along our bible.

* Possibly the same person

Twittering Telegraph Poles

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We’ve finally given in!  Kicking and screaming we have moved into the 21st Century and signed up for a Twitter account.  We have no idea what it is or how it works.  But there is a link on the side just there on the left.  And if you click it and do something else then apparently you can hear our every thought.  I’m not sure I like that, but it’s supposed to be progress, and I’m told I have to be in it.  So there.

Twitter at us here…

 

 

Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society MUGS

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A Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society MugOctober 29th it was when the checkout girl asked the person behind me – and I kid you not –  “Are you ready for Christmas?” Well I had to be restrained! I’d already been hearing Noddy Holder grinding out his annual fingernails-on-a-blackboard thing down at the garden centre for days by then.

We should all do well to remember that Christmas is only 99% about crass commercialisation and the endless purveyance of tat. The other 1% is about you parting with £8.99 to grab for yourself (or someone else) one of our all-new Yo ho ho! Merry Christmas, Joyeux Noel, Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society Mugs.

Each mug has…

  • A handle.
  • A hollow bit in the middle for the tea.
  • A bottom.
  • Magnificent splendour.
  • A picture of a telegraph pole on one side.
  • And on the other
  • And some nice Technicolour www writing on the bottom.
  • A light buff cardboard super-strong box that it comes in.

What’s more, we have 3 special pricing plans so that everyone can afford one of these wonderfully collectable treasures.

Option 1 :  £8.99 including free P&P

Option 2 :  £5.99 only + £3.00 P&P

Option 3 : For our more skint telegraph pole fans we have easy terms on the tick: 2 instalments of £3.00 with a final payment of £2.99 all consolidated into a special one-off easy payment of £8.99.

You just can’t go wrong. So click that button now*1. Once for every person in your life who loves telegraph poles.  If you live in America or anywhere that’s not the UK then contact us first, please – there’s virtually nowt in this for us as it is !

 

 

*1 Offer limited to 1,000 mugs per household.

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